Wednesday 2 June 2010

A Charismatic Question by Email

We have received an unusual email from someone connected with the 'The International House of Prayer -- Kansas City'. The man who wrote wants to learn something about Orthodox prayer to use in his missionary ministry of universal worship and intercessory prayer in the 24/7 prayer room at the House. We did some due diligence and they are third-wave Pentecostalist 'latter rain' types. The House was founded by someone named Mike Bickle. There has been or is some connection to the Vineyard group of churches. We get the impression that in 'latter rain' and 'Joel's Army' circles these things and peoples are fairly well known. We don’t know anything. We are rather bemused by this. The only thing we could suggest is that the party who inquired read the blog post by post from oldest post to newest post. If he gets anything out of it, so much the better. We were rather put off by his email, given that it links to various places all of which have draw-down menus for one-time or monthly donations, not to mention the same thing in the author’s email signature.

Update, August, 2010: See also this post.
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10 comments:

  1. UnknownWednesday, June 02, 2010 10:48:00 pm

    Lol Yes those who wish to support me have links to Donate to me as I work as an Intercessory Missionary. I am in the Prayer Room 36-40 hours a week praying for the region, nation, government, Church, family, friends and other personal requests. As far as IHOP goes alot of what you will find online is not true at all but im not here to defend the Ministry. As I said in my Email i have studied Orthodoxy for the past few months, since I came to IHOP actually there are a lot of teachings from/on the desert fathers and mystics. In my studies i have heard a lot about the Jesus Prayer so during my contemplative Prayer time i tried it. ans was just wanting to learn some more, I guess im sorry i had asked God Bless sir!

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  2. Orthodox MonkThursday, June 03, 2010 4:53:00 am

    As we said, our advice is to read the whole blog post by post beginning from the oldest and proceeding to the newest post.

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  3. drinklifeFriday, June 04, 2010 7:15:00 am

    Was this blog post necessary?

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  4. Orthodox MonkFriday, June 04, 2010 7:25:00 am

    Yes.

    Does it bother you?

    Perhaps that's an indicator that it was necessary.

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  5. drinklifeFriday, June 04, 2010 7:30:00 am

    doesn't bother me. It just makes this blog seem childish and petty rather than substantial and worth reading.

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  6. Orthodox MonkFriday, June 04, 2010 7:41:00 am

    You've confirmed the wisdom of the post. Drinklife, we're not here to satisfy your stereotypes. If you don't like the blog, there are millions of others.

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  7. drinklifeFriday, June 04, 2010 7:46:00 am

    that's a shame.

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  8. Orthodox MonkFriday, June 04, 2010 7:52:00 am

    There's a serious underlying issue of whether it is legitimate for a 'Latter Rain' Pentecostalist to take up the Jesus Prayer. I.e. we do not take the position that the Jesus Prayer is properly prayed outside the Orthodox Church. That is why we posted the email.

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  9. drinklifeFriday, June 04, 2010 8:07:00 am

    That is not what was communicated. Had that been the message of the post, then it would have been a legitimate response. The post could have been engaging addressing an important topic, instead of a public personal denigration.

    I suggest a post actually discussing the issue of latter rain Pentecostals praying the Jesus Prayer. Is it only the Jesus Prayer that ought not be prayed outside the Orthodox Church? What about the Lord's Prayer? What about any prayer directed at the Triune God?

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  10. Orthodox MonkFriday, June 04, 2010 1:29:00 pm

    You are very peremptory, Drinklife. You have praised one post and harshly criticized a second post. We hadn't realized that you were the final authority for what we post on our blog and how. Please leave the matter alone. We will not be posting any more of your comments.

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